Amen Unlearn, and amen!
zed
i want to start by saying i will not participate in discussion here about my resignation as a moderator at jwn.. simon please consider this as my resignation from that position.. i have been posting on this board for almost 12 years.
i know some of you a lot, others a little and some not very well at all.
i have remained here for those of you who have needed support as you make the transition out of the wts, who needed someone to listen to your experiences of abuse at the hands of jehovah's witnesses, and to both laugh and cry with you as you progress out of the watchtower society.. we know that we have all experienced the cruelty of abuse of one kind or another.
Amen Unlearn, and amen!
zed
so does this mean aawa is going to stop shunning?
are they themselves not guilty of shunning those who shun?
shunning can never be stopped no matter how bad you want it to.
I do think that it is a very nice PowerPoint/video. Succinct and to the very core of the issue of shunning.
I know first hand of the damaging affects of it, as I have been shunned for a long time. I have seen what this practice has done to others, and it disgusts me. It actually bothers me more when I see others shunned by friends and family. Most of my family sucks, so it is not quite as bad for me.
I know that a few people here think that I am just an AAWA basher. In truth I am a one trick pony. My only axe to grind with them was the blatent outing of faders on Facebook. If they would have taken down the offending site immediately, I could have brushed it off as growing pains of a new organization. I could have even understood if it would have taken a day or two to come to that decision.
It was over three weeks that that Facebook page was up. Instead of deleting it, they made excuses. I found it particularly galling that John Cedars, the President of the group, cared so little about others being outed. He is very protective of his true identity because he personally does not want to suffer shunning himself. Apparently, he could give a rat's ass about anyone elses privacy. In my book, this fundamentally makes him just as evil as the organization that he is attacking.
zed
looks like the awaa people are here to stay.
i sense they have withered the rentless criticism and now have been refined for the long haul.
they have been washed in the previous blood of jesus christ and declared fit to the fine fight.
Band,
Glad you are back!
zed
soontobe,
I think you mean "miracle birds."
zed
Marvin,
After your bloviating about the vulgarity on this board, your non-condemnation of an obscene gesture campaign on wAAWAh tells us a little of your hypocritical nature.
zed
JWSurvey = GIGO.
zed
i do not know if anyone has ever asked this question before.. if you live in a state where it is legal to smoke marijuana with a prescription, will the congregation take any action against a member of it that smokes it?
i imagine that they wouldn't disfellowship anyone, but it may not make the person eligible for priveleges.. has there been any letter from hq to the boes about it?.
i am just curious.. zed.
Marvin,
I have read that passage out of the "Flock" book, and the ambiguous terminology used. I was wondering if anyone had any personal experiences as an elder dealing with this, and any feedback the legal department gave to BOEs regarding it. Or people that were "investigated" because of the use of pot.
Thank you for your imput.
DATA,
I agree about the "don't ask, don't tell." I was not thinking of the states where recreational use is now legal, if you did that they could still DF you, as the use of tobacco is legal in all states. I was thinking of states like California where you can get a prescription for it.
Another question, would the elders make you prove you had a prescription if you were "caught" using it? It would be a conundrum for WT legal, because it would be a violation of the members doctor/patient confidentiality.
zed
i do not know if anyone has ever asked this question before.. if you live in a state where it is legal to smoke marijuana with a prescription, will the congregation take any action against a member of it that smokes it?
i imagine that they wouldn't disfellowship anyone, but it may not make the person eligible for priveleges.. has there been any letter from hq to the boes about it?.
i am just curious.. zed.
Hi,
I do not know if anyone has ever asked this question before.
If you live in a state where it is legal to smoke marijuana with a prescription, will the congregation take any action against a member of it that smokes it? I imagine that they wouldn't disfellowship anyone, but it may not make the person eligible for priveleges.
Has there been any letter from HQ to the BOEs about it?
I am just curious.
zed
which is more embarrassing?.
i am leaning towards aawa because they should know better.. .
uun .
I think the wAAWAh launch was worse. Nobody was hurt by the masturbation video.
zed
He probably Tweeted that lovely picture too.
zed